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| Re: Any PGR members on the forum? I have met a few... This is about 9 months old but tells you a bit about Patriot Guard and this Jackass Phelps they are trying to deter... I also heard this Phelps Guy HOPES for confrontation so they can sue make your own Judgement from this story.... L&R Renegade XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX XXXX Bikers barricade Phelps!This has been on Biker Forums for some time.. Bikers, most of whom are Vets, have been doing something. This is from a Biker forum I am on.. Support for a Fallen Soldier -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Picked this up on another group, ( http://forums.delphiforums.com/KSMR...ges/?msg=3913.1 ) if you are in the area you might want to show up. I will monitor his site because he is expanding the area he takes his protests they have gone as far as OR, and if he show up with 500 miles of AZ I will be there. If you go this should be to just put a barrier between them and the funeral, maybe fire the bikes up to block out thier BS. They next planned protest is Funeral of Army Spc. Christopher T. Monroe - 10 a.m., Saturday, Nov. 5, Concordia Lutheran Church, 4245 Lake Ave., Ft. Wayne, Ind. Let some people know. Here is some of what thier banners say, taked from thier web site, Our banners, with their heart piercing words, read such glorious things as, Thank God For Dead Soldiers, Thank God For IEDs, America Is Doomed, and God Hates America. __________________________________________________ ____________________ Don't know how many have been following the story, or have heard news reports of this: Fred Phelps from Topeka and his group of wackos have been protesting at the funerals of our soldiers killed in combat. There have been a few times now that bikers have gotten together to form a barricade between Phelps and the family of the soldier. Also, the bikers have revved their motors to hopefully drown out the crap that Phelps is spewing. I'm sure I'm not getting my & Dana's complete disgust for this jerk across to y'all.... but here's more information so you can decide how you feel. A friend of ours from KC attended one of these funerals just last week, and this is how he described what happened. ===================================== We had a very good turnout! http://www.tonganoxiemirror.com/sec...news/story/8437 Here's my take on the day.... I rolled in to Tonganoxie about 9:30. I'm not sure how I felt about this. All I knew was that I had to be here. The sign on the bank said 44 degrees. Big deal, I lost feeling in my fingers 20 miles ago. The original meeting spot was at Casey's, but our ranks were quickly outgrowing the parking lot, so we were relocated to a grocery store parking lot that could handle the 190+ bikes that showed up. We were grouped up and had a briefing, a prayer was said and we started lining up waiting for the call to head out. Our leader reminded us that we were there to show support for this family and community and we will not allow his memory to be desecrated (and I think he looked at me when he said "No Profanity"). 11:40 we got the call, two abreast we rolled in, BIG flags in front. First were the American flags, followed by POW, American Legion, USMC, Navy, Air Force, Army and Coast Guard. Flags lined the streets and flags were on every bike. As we're pulling out, I think about my kids. My kids that are the same age as this kid I've never met, never even heard of until 2 days ago. I think about his 20 year old widow. I feel for his parents whose son was shot on his birthday, and I think about how disgusted I am that these vermin-scum are here to taunt these grieving people. I have a huge lump in my throat and my vision's getting blurry. I wonder why this is necessary. We arrived, parked and got off our bikes. We can see their signs. Now I'm mad again and, at this point, all I want is one swing at the bastards. The 200-plus of us gather across the street and for the first time I get a close look at the dickweeds. There's maybe 8 of them and most of them are freaking KIDS!! A couple were college age, most were younger, there's a young girl maybe 8yrs old and she looks like she's dancing, but there's no music...big smile, dancing, laughing and jumping around. I watched her for a bit before I realized, she's stomping on the AMERICAN FLAG (insert massive expletives here!!) !! I'm shocked! I can't F*CKING BELIEVE THIS! (for those who know me, you know how hard it was for me to go this far into the story without the "F word"). As a group, we turned our backs to the vermin-scum, they're not worthy of our time. I'm quietly reminding myself that I didn't come here to fight, I'm here to try to help. I glance up on the roof...police sniper watching those freaks, cool! About that time a woman starts singing. I can't tell who it is and I can't hear her very well, but it sounds like "God Bless America". It got kind of quiet & I realized that she's singing "God HATES America"!! ARE YOU F*CKING KIDDING ME?? I can feel my face getting red, I spot a tire iron lying on the ground (just in case). Our group drowns her out with the Pledge of Allegiance. My mind is kind of in a daze at this point. To me, it's very ironic to think that the man in the casket died protecting the FREEDOM of the low-life scumbags standing at his funeral STOMPING on the flag!! That freaking lump in my throat is back and my vision is blurry again. I'm thankful for dark sunglasses. I'm telling myself (again) that I'm not here to fight, but I can't stop feeling disgusted. It's one thing to express your opinion and/or religion, but this guy is exploiting this freedom of expression in some backwards ass attempt to piss on the grave of someone's child. If that wasn't low enough he sends CHILDREN, little KIDS, to do his dirty work. Why is an 8 year olds holding signs that say "God hates Fags"? What does someone tell an 8 year old to validate this kind of behavior? What kind of reasoning are you using to tell your 8 year old that she needs to hate fags and "today we're going to drive to a funeral and when we get there, you're going to hold up this sign and 200 angry grown ups are going to yell at you!" There is something obscene here, something so surreal that my feeble mind cannot fathom. Stupidity breeding hate. Kids holding signs preaching hate. His stupidity is obvious, his hate is contagious, he must be eradicated. I'd be happy to handle the task. I left home this morning on my bike with the sole purpose of lending a hand. I came to pay homage to 22 year old Spc. Lucas Franz. I somehow hoped that my being there would provide some amount of comfort to his young widowed wife, and his parents and family. I never met him, but I'll remember him and this day for a long time. I've never had a day like today where my emotions were run through the gamut. It's 3 am and I still can't stop the tears. To get a real grasp on this sick individual go to: www.godhatesfags.com (BE ADVISED: DISTURBING) Ride safe! Support our troops!! __________________ RESPECTFULLY, Renegade ![]() Patched Bikers Know True Brotherhood |
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| Re: Any PGR members on the forum? I find it difficult to believe that there are so few responses to this post. First of all, I don’t pray, second, I’m against the war in Iraq and have been from the beginning. That being said; I did help to organize and lead a prayer rally after 9/11 in the business community that I was a member of. I really think we should have instigated a war between Iran and Iraq and then deal with the winner and I don’t mean talk to them. The brave men and women of our armed forces and covert agencies are our employees and as a former union official, I am deeply concerned for their wellbeing and happiness. There are no higher ties than family ties. There are also community ties. I live in Oceanside California, home of Camp Pendleton, and see my neighbors and friends that serve me and you on a daily basis. Over the years, I know not all of them returned from deployment safely. I’m reminded of it every day by the evening news on television. I do what I can to help when I can but I could not participate in PRG by attending a fallen hero’s funeral. If a moron and his group showed up and behaved as described by Renegade’s post, I doubt that I could restrain myself. Using children to spread hatred should be considered child abuse. Certainly, this waste of chromosomes, Fred Phelps, could be charged with in sighting a riot or does one have to break out first? The next time a police sniper has Fred Phelps’ forehead in the cross hairs, just may be, karma will intervene and cause a muscle spasm in his/her trigger finger. Although, that would not be fare to the officer and I would not want him/her to be left with dealing with a death. Some how, some way, Fred Phelps will pay for what he is doing. If there is a god, he will pay in hell. To all the fine young men and women who serve us, thank you very much. I wish you all a speedy and safe return. To the family and friends of all our heroes who paid the ultimate price for our freedom, my deepest condolences. To all our Veterans, thank you very much for a job well done. |
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| Re: Any PGR members on the forum? Pix I never think war is the answer I firmly believe that after 9/11 going to Afganastan was the right call I am split on Iraq,but think we should have leveled it and killed all the cockroaches at one time instead of now trying to step on them with our shoes (so to speak) I do Pray,cause I think-NO I Know it works- And I support all of our brave young men that are there for our country and proud of them all!! What Phelps does is an abomination and cruel to the families left behind there are Laws being passed to protect the funerals of those fallen and making folks like Phelps stay away,there is a time and place for everything and a Funeral for a Brave Hero is not it! I have a few friends,and family serving now and though too young now two sons of my own I hope never have to endure what our brave young soldiers are now. Freedom isn't free but our Generals need to remember its easy to say charge (from the rear) I was in Oceanside not long ago nice place Love that motorcycle coffeeshop on 101 and that owner girl is hot too! __________________ RESPECTFULLY, Renegade ![]() Patched Bikers Know True Brotherhood |
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| Re: Any PGR members on the forum? For those that do pray, please pray for strength for the family of Cpl. Ryan. J. Clark, 19, of Lancaster, Calif Cpl. Ryan. J. Clark, 19, of Lancaster, Calif., died on June 29 in the Brooke Army Medical Center, San Antonio, Texas, of injuries sustained on June 17 when an improvised explosive device detonated near his HMMWV during combat operations in Ar Ramadi, Iraq. Clark was assigned to the 40th Engineer Battalion, 1st Brigade Combat Team, Baumholder, Germany. I leave in an hour to ride with the PGR to honor this serviceman and his family. For those that do not believe or pray, a moment of slience will be heard by the family... Even if you do not have the time or desire to join PGR, show your support for local servicemen/women and their families thru your local organizations like the VFW, etc..call and see what you can do to make life a bit easier for them that serve and those that only wait and pray for their safe return. Ron Bakersfield, CA |
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