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Old 10-23-2007
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Keep Iraq in Perspective...

I love Americans who have the courage to stand behind their country.

John Glenn said this ...that should make you think a little:

There were 39 combat related killings in Iraq in January.

In the fair city of Detroit there were 35 murders in the month of January. That's just one American city, about as deadly as the entire war-torn country of Iraq

When some claim that President Bush shouldn't have started this war, state the following:

a. FDR led us into World War II.

b. Germany never attacked us ; Japan did.

>From 1941-1945, 450,000 lives were lost ...

An average of 112,500 per year.



c. Truman finished that war and started one in Korea

North Korea never attacked us ...

>From 1950-1953, 55,000 lives were lost ....

An average of 18,334 per year.



D John F. Kennedy started the Vietnam conflict in 1962.

Vietnam never attacked us.



e. Johnson turned Vietnam into a quagmire.

>From 1965-1975, 58,000 lives were lost ...

An average of 5,800 per year.



f. Clinton went to war in Bosnia without UN or French consent.

Bosnia never attacked us ..

He was offered Osama bin Laden's head on a platter three times by Sudan and did nothing. Osama has attacked us on multiple occasions.



g. In the years since terrorists attacked us , President Bush has liberated two countries, crushed the Taliban, crippled al-Qaida, put nuclear inspectors in Libya , Iran , and, North Korea

Without firing a shot, and captured a terrorist who slaughtered 300,000 of his own people.



The Democrats are complaining

About how long the war is taking.

But Wait It took less time to take Iraq than it took Janet Reno to take the Branch Davidian compound.

That was a 51-day operation..



We've been looking for evidence for chemical weapons in Iraq for less time than it took Hillary Clinton to find the Rose Law Firm billing records.



It took less time for the 3rd Infantry Division and the Marines to destroy the Medina Republican Guard than it took Ted Kennedy to call the police after his Oldsmobile sank at Chappaquiddick.



It took less time to take Iraq than it took

To count the votes in Florida !!!



Our Commander-In-Chief is doing a GREAT JOB !

The Military morale is high!

The biased media hopes we are too ignorant

To realize the facts

But Wait

There's more!



JOHN GLENN (on the Senate floor - January 26, 2004)

Some people still don't understand why military personnel do what they do for a living. This exchange between Senators John Glenn and Senator Howard Metzenbaum

Is worth reading. Not only is it a pretty impressive

Impromptu speech, but it's also a good example of one man's explanation of why men and women in the armed services do what they do for a living.



This IS a typical, though sad, example of what

Some who have never served think of the military.





Senator Metzenbaum (speaking to Senator Glenn):

"How can you run for Senate when you've never held a real job?"



Senator Glenn (D-Ohio):

"I served 23 years in the United States Marine Corps.

I served through two wars. I flew 149 missions.

My plane was hit by anti-aircraft fire on 12 different occasions. I was in the space program. It wasn't my checkbook, Howard; it was my life on the line. It was not a nine-to-five job, where I took time off to take the daily cash receipts to the bank."

"I ask you to go with me .. . As I went the other day...

To a veteran's hospital and look those men ...

With their mangled bodies . In the eye, and tell THEM they didn't hold a job!

You go with me to the Space Program at NASA

And go, as I have gone, to the widows and Orphans

Of Ed White, Gus Grissom and Roger Chaffee...

And you look those kids in the eye and tell them

That their DADS didn't hold a job..

You go with me on Memorial Day and you stand in

Arlington National Cemetery , where I have more friends buried than I'd like to remember, and you watch those waving flags.

You stand there, and you think about this nation,

And you tell ME that those people didn't have a job?

What about you?"



For those who don't remember

During W.W..II, Howard Metzenbaum was an attorney representing the Communist Party in the USA .

Now he's a Senator!
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thats some real eye opening information.thanks for posting that
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Re: Keep Iraq in Perspective...

They killed 350 U.S. military and contractors in the year I was in Turkey...Didn't even make the papers...
This was after the problem in Cyprus in 79..We took Greek's side ...and now we are pissing the Turks off again....bad idea...!
Me and my AIT buddy got jumped by 20 Turks with VERY big knives...Was also on a bus stopped by 6 guys with AK's looking for me...
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thats some real eye opening information.thanks for posting that
While your eyes are open, I suggest that you look up the facts listed above and verify their accuracy. While Tireater's narrative contains some interesting points, it also has a lot of inaccuracies. Case in point: there were a hell of a lot more violence related deaths in Iraq in January than 39. In fact there were over 80 American military deaths in January in addition to 1700 civilian deaths (but of course we don't really care about them cause the were Iraqi)

There is an Urban Legend that Howard Metzenbaum worked for the communist party, but it is unsubstantiated. It's easy to produce "facts" it's another story to back them up.
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Re: Keep Iraq in Perspective...

Have you ever been to a "peace" rally...More socialists and communists then you can shake a stick at...
How did the media and Hollywierd get on the terorist bandwagon...IT IS NOTHING LESS THAN DISGUSTING....
Liberals hate Bush so much that they want to see us lose this war...What fuktards and sheeple....
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